The Mosler Consulier GTP is an Oddly Failing Supercar. –
This is a 1990 consular gtp, a mid-engined 1980s and 1990s supercar that you’ve probably never heard of.
That’s because it was a failure, albeit a very interesting and quirky one, and today I’m going to review it.
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The consular gtp was conceived and designed by Warren Mosler, who is better known in the car world for his later models, particularly the expensive and track-focused mosler mt-900, but before that there was the consular gtp, which debuted in the mid-1980s as an American attempt at an exotic sports car.
The main difference between this car and pretty much all the other exotic sports cars from this era was primarily weight.
The ferrari testarossa and the lamb Unfortunately, the consular gtp was not particularly successful.
They lacked the brand name and recognition of ferrari or lamborghini, as well as the power and presence on the road.
There was also the price tag, which was around sixty thousand dollars in the late 1980s, which translates to about one hundred and thirty-five thousand dollars in today’s money, and then there was the styling, which, well, let’s just say there were a lot of reasons they didn’t even make it to production You also have a series of vents next to the fan that are just radiator vents back here very strange design and also a very large wide radiator for cooling certainly a strange look in this car not as cool as the massive rear wing in the back of the ferrari f40 that just looked awesome and by the way around back some other things worth mentioning one the tail lights that are borrowed from the chevrolet el camino those are the bumper and rated tail lights in the el camin this duct mounted on the front fender this duct that brings air into the car it’s actually there to bring air into the interior because there were regulations about how much air needed to come into the passenger compartment of a car being sold at this time and so they had to add a duct to get more air into the interior to comply with that regulation now a lot of cars from this era that had a duct like this had two of them the f40 for instance has two ducts but it didn’t need them only one was functionally necessary to get the error the f40 added two because it looked better but this car didn’t bother with that since styling was clearly not a priority and speaking of styling another rather questionable design decision is the wheels chrome wheels and you can see very 80s these are 15s made by krager and they just don’t look all that great not all that sporty not all that incredibly cool performancy and they’re fake multi-piece wheels these are just one piece wheels but they have these little rivets going around the side looking like they’re three-piece wheels well they’re not they’re just regular old wheels that really don’t do this car any extra favors in the looks department which probably didn’t really help sales either and since i’m outside let’s talk about the name of this car which goes down the side in massive print saying consular that was the name of the brand consular was the brand and gtp was the model this was the conciliar gtp but as mosler’s name became better known and better associated with the mt 900 a lot of people started calling these the mosler conciliar so I guess either one would technically be right now as for production numbers if you read online you’ll find that they made maybe 83 of these but the owner of this car told me they made 83 chassis but that didn’t necessarily lead to 83 finished cars in fact he suspects the real number is more like maybe in the 60s between road cars and race cars so there are very very precious few of these running around now this particular car is number 16 as you can see on the vin it ends in 16 so this was the 16th built and amazingly when the owner went to register this consular pulled up in the california dmv database as a brand and he was able to get it registered with consulir on his registration receipt it sounds so ridiculous considering how few of these they made but it was a car that was federalized and legally on sale so I guess it makes sense now it’s also worth noting around back we’re talking about naming it also says conciliar in giant letters in back and on the other side it says gtplx lx is because this was the luxury model the lx version more on what the lx got you in a second as I climb inside but before we climb inside I want to talk about the engine because as quirky and bizarre as this car is it gets even stranger as you discuss the powertrain now first getting into the engine area to get back here you twist these little fasteners on either side holding the hood in place and then you just lift this carbon kevlar composite thing made everything incredibly lightweight and it’s very easy to just lift this up prop it in place and then you can see the engine like I said this is a turbo four-cylinder from chrysler now a turbo four-cylinder these days is a pretty common thing but back then it was rare to find a small turbocharged engine and they employed it in this car they wanted something that was small and lightweight to fit in with kind of the theme of this car originally these were making about 175 horsepower but later they upgraded to a newer version of the engine with about 190 horsepower this one with sort of a free or flowing exhaust makes around 200 horsepower which is pretty good in this car that like I mentioned weighs around 2200 pounds now a couple of interesting things in this engine bay for one you can see the engine almost looks like it’s pointed the wrong way chrysler turbo is facing the car rather than facing out like you’d expect that’s because this engine was designed to be used in front engine front-wheel drive cars so the engine would be facing that way towards the front and indeed this engine was originally used in the dodge omni glh one of the great hot hatchback models of the 1980s but when they put this engine in this car in the back they didn’t bother to turn it they didn’t have to and so it does look like it’s facing the wrong way the other thing that’s notable back here you can see there’s a large hole behind the engine that was for a cargo compartment these cars had that optional you could get a cargo compartment installed but this particular one just doesn’t have it in place however you can see the space where it would have been to add a little bit more practicality although your cargo would be sharing the engine bay with the engine so I imagine things would get pretty warm back here but speaking of chrysler and the engine it’s important to point out the engine wasn’t the only thing that concilia borrowed from chrysler this door handle on the outside to get in if you know chrysler’s from this area you’ll know that was used in a lot of different chrysler products at the time you open up the door and you can see same deal on the inside this interior door panel is largely lifted from chrysler but especially the interior door latch and this door lock assembly area this was all on several different chrysler models from this period they figured they were borrowing the engine they might as well borrow some more stuff too I also like the fact that the driver door panel contains an individual ashtray for the driver of this car and the passenger door panel contains an ashtray just for the passenger too I like that they figured there would be so much smoking going on in this car as an exotic sports car in the 80s that one shared ashtray between two people just wouldn’t do they needed two individual ashtrays to really get things right the console air company was located in florida and something like that well kind of shows Next, we’ll go inside the conciliar gtp and discuss the first item you see when you open the door, which is the car phone.
This was the lx model, which was the luxury version, and it came with a built-in car phone, which you can see in the center console, as well as a little antenna beside the driver’s window, which looked very 1980s, for improved mobile phone coverage.
This is a very interesting oddity that you’d only see on automobiles from this period, particularly ones as unique as this one.
up next Another luxury feature of the lx model was cruise control.
Despite being a lightweight sports vehicle designed to be driven to the racetrack and raced, it featured cruise control, which you can see fitted on this stock, which is also very Chrysler.
Another chrysler piece was borrowed since it functioned and made sense, so they used it as well.
You now have another chrysler part inside this automobile.
Another luxury feature for the lx model was air conditioning, which is an unusual option on a lightweight sports car, but this concealer gtp has it, despite the odd controls.
You can see that all of the temperature control is done with these three knobs positioned on the control area.
The higher one regulates airflow.
So you’re wondering how do you adjust the air flow where the air is coming out and the answer is you do it with individual controls for each air vent.
For example, if you want to open or close the vent that blows on passengers sitting in the interior this little switch does that just pull it open or closed if it’s open then air is coming out into the passenger compartment if it’s closed then air is coming out into the passenger compartment temperature of the oil and water Although there are a few remarkable gauges in here, one is a clock that is really labeled as a clock even though it is plainly a clock but hey thanks for the label anyhow I suppose it’s great to see that you also have a gauge here because this was a turbo vehicle This is engine hours, which you would mostly find in aircraft or construction equipment.
You do, however, see hours gauges on racing cars, so maybe they felt it made sense to put it here and there.
Other intriguing interior things One is the seats, you can see these lovely leather seats these are recaro seats they were fitted from the factory and they look rather nice and fit with this car’s purpose one interesting thing about the seats is the netting here this was your headrest component a lightweight piece you don’t have a full headrest it’s hollow in the middle with netting to save weight now speaking of weight savings and practicality this car wasn’t really all about pr this car wasn’t really all about pr Power mirrors and locks are a little odd because they’re right here in the center, the only item in the middle, kind of set apart from everything else, but that’s how you adjust them.
The power locks are on the door panel and use the same switch as the window switch, so they look like a window switch but they aren’t.
Of course, neither of these things are labeled.
The power mirrors are the strangest because they are in the center control area, also unlabeled, next to all the gauges, and you can move it left to right and adjust the power mirrors.
Not the best location for this stuff, but it had everything, and on the way back to the gauges, I’d like to briefly go over the gauge cluster on the left side, where you can see the speedometer, which only goes up to 120 miles per hour, which isn’t exactly crazy supercar territory considering the ferrari f40 could go 200 miles per hour at the time, and that clearly demonstrated this car’s focus as more of a track friendly exotic sports car rather than one that was inte out of the blue Perhaps more interesting is the tachometer, which is odd for a couple of reasons.
For one thing, the zero position isn’t zero, it’s four, so the tachometer always rests at 400 rpm, not five or zero, but four.
Also strange is the fact that there are two needles in this tachometer.
The second one is there to indicate red line, so you watch your regular tachometer needle climb and as it approaches the second tachometer needle, it Now it’s time to get it out on the road and see how it drives.
The first thing you notice when you look at this car is that it lacks the presence of some of these exotic cars.
I watched an interview with Warren Mosler where he talks about making this car and he said that he went and looked at all the other exotic cars and they were all so big and heavy that he wanted to just simplify and still be able to drive it.
here The brakes are something I’d want to discuss.
The brakes feel absolutely disastrous at first tip in when you first tap them i’m pressing the brakes halfway and not much is happening right now but when you slam on the brakes the owner of this car told me it’s the same uh braking distances as a new m3 so it’s pretty good obviously but you just have to work them a little harder that’s generally true of 80s cars I recently spent some more time in a f40 and it’s the same One manual steering wheel with no power steering is clearly an issue at low speeds, but it turns quite sharply at higher speeds like this.
Another huge advantage of the steering and handling situation is that this vehicle is light.
The body is light in weight.
There’s not a lot of weight high up in this car, so it feels light when you’re changing directions; it feels eager to turn and easy to turn; and it’s pretty quick to move around.
I totally understand the myriad of reasons why people wouldn’t have bought this car back in the day: for one thing, it’s ugly; for another, it’s distributed by a company that no one has ever heard of conciliar, which isn’t even a real word; it’s The vector w8 is a cooler car to me because it had more presence, a better story, a much cooler look, and a larger engine, but if I had to pick one just to drive, I think this would be the car, and that’s the consumer gtp.
This is a very bizarre car because it’s a lightweight American supercar that’s completely forgotten to the world, and it’s easy to see why it failed, but it’s also very interesting and quirky, When it achieves a 7 out of 10, the enjoyment level is also unexpectedly high; it’s perky, eager, and exhilarating to fling about.
lastly, there’s the cool factor This is somewhat of cool; it certainly seems fascinating, but no one knows what it is, preventing it from reaching ultimate cool status; it receives a 6 out of 10 for a total weekend score of 29 out of 50.
The daily categories and features come next.
This one is a 2 out of 10 since it doesn’t contain much.
It’s OK to be comfortable.
It’s roomier than you’d anticipate, but it’s not exactly a luxury vehicle, earning a 3 out of 10 rating.
The quality is excellent.
The Chrysler engine is not especially spectacular or luxury, but it is easily repairable with commonly accessible components, therefore it receives a 4 out of 10 rating.
This 2-seater’s practicality is average for a 2-seater, therefore it receives a 2 out of 10 rating.
These sell for more than you expect, possibly in the $60,000 to $75,000 area, if not more.
That’s a lot of money for a somewhat obscure exotic vehicle with a Chrysler four-cylinder, but it’s enjoyable to drive and unusual, so it earns a six out of ten for a total daily score of 17 out of 50.
When you put it all together, the total score is 46 out of 100, which positions it here among related automobiles.
It really does rather well, and the console should benefit from it.
The aired gtp is a lot more dynamic than I expected, and it’s surprisingly entertaining to drive, even if its looks and, well, its mere obscurity let it down.